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Post by Karumichan on Apr 1, 2006 22:20:49 GMT -5
Yessir! *no clue what Marx and Engels are about* Engels...thats angels in german? >_> Ok, everyone write their papers then. This starting to sound fun, maybe I will write a paper. ;D
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Post by Shinta_Himura on Apr 1, 2006 22:35:28 GMT -5
*Voice from outside* Marx and Engels were the ones who came up with the theory of Communism, well they were among the first thoretics. Just read Communist Manifesto as said on sylables! *walking away*
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Post by chibipyroduo on Apr 2, 2006 14:10:29 GMT -5
aww isn't Shinta_Himura-sensei mean. ::crys::
The origins of lust, greed, pride, in many different ancient cultures came from the woman. Eve ate the apple, Pandora opened the box, ect. So obviously it's all the woman's fault right? How can so many cultures be wrong. Kind of like the flood story, almost every culture has one so it must have been a global event that every culture remembered and experienced. Although if you are religious the seven deadly sins are: gluttony, greed, lust, wrath, pride, and envy. All of those are essentially man's downfall everytime. When we can get rid of them then the world will be at peace and then the penguins will come down and rule ^~ (to put it in a lighter note).
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Post by Shinta_Himura on Apr 2, 2006 19:39:09 GMT -5
You just named all the beasts that can eat a person from inside out alive. Greed, lust, glutony, wrath, envy, pride. Those are the worst things one can do to themselve. I always considered envy aka jelousy and greed as such. By the way, you said seven but named only six I belive ^^;; And I didn't said you have to read Communist Manifesto, it's just what we would be studying and if you wish to know what's in a God name is that and who are Marx and Engels you should read that. However I will not force you to do that, only I don't know how you would answer those questions when it would pop up in a quiz or a test. Be glad that midterm is already over and I would be announcing grades sometime later.
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Post by chibipyroduo on Apr 3, 2006 1:31:07 GMT -5
Actually it's on my list of things to read, I just haven't gotten around to it. Frankenstien is what currently is occupying my mind and how I'm going to pass that particular tests. I'll kindly decline that midterm for now. ^~
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Post by Shinta_Himura on Apr 3, 2006 17:43:03 GMT -5
Fine I will not announce your grades, I will just hand you your test papers back *gives her her test back* Whatever your grade is, no one else would be able to read it. So class do you think we should do any quizes before the finals? Oh and don't forget about that report on the role of Lenin in World War I Russia as well.
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Post by chibipyroduo on Apr 3, 2006 23:50:30 GMT -5
Your bogging me down with work Himura-sensei. I don't think I'll be able to do that. ^~ Maybe first I should focus on one task at a time, oh that one track mind of mine.
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Post by Karumichan on Apr 4, 2006 21:34:03 GMT -5
Himura-sensei, give a lecture on communist leaders instead of tests....then we'll be on topic. ^-^
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Post by Shinta_Himura on Apr 6, 2006 23:01:09 GMT -5
*walks into the lecture hall and puts down a book* Good evening class. Today we will talk about Role of the Lenin in World War One and his reasons for the revolution.
Vladimir Ilich Lenin, originaly known as Vladimir Ilich Ulianov was a lawer in education, similarly to Marx actually. His birth origins are questionable and shrouded by rumors actually. Officially he was a son of Ilia Ulanov, but there are rummors that his "father" was actualy a homosexual and was arranged to marry his mother by a Tsar. That was to ensure that she would have a family and no one would suspect her relationship with Tsar Alecksandr III. It's a rumor, but they said that while serving at the Imperial court, she was in relashionship with Tsar and her son Alecksandr was actually illigal son of Tsar Alecksandr III. It is known for certain that Tsar was paying Ulianov family a pension as well and then Lenin's brother Alecksandr (the one I talked about) was involved in the assassination attempt on Tsar Alecksandr III, which had failed. Alecksandr was tried and executed for that attempt and that belived to be the main reason why Lenin decided to overthrow the Tsarist government in the first place. They belive that Lenin acted out of vengence.
So what we have here now is Ulianov who had to flee Russia because of his plots. He eventually found himself in Germany and got into Communist theachings of Marx very much, which wren't welcomed in Germany as well. There's a rumor that German government saw an opportunity to take Russian Empire out of the war if Lenin would make a revolution, so they helped him get back there and made sure he would succed.
Only there was no Tsarist government anymore in Russia when Lenin made his revolution. Tsar Nicholas II was forced to abdigate on March 15 of 1917 because his family was treatened and democratic, provisional government was established up until October 25 of the same year when Bolsheviks' revolution took place.
Now we shall discuss the topic ^^
((By the way, going away to Russia tommorow for the duration of spring breaks ^^;; first time in 8 years, lol ))
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Post by chibipyroduo on Apr 7, 2006 18:17:48 GMT -5
Have fun sensei. That was very informative I don't know where to start. Or how to discuss it. I know that Germany wanted to take Russia out in WWI, but question did Russia pull out of the war before or after the US got involved?
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Post by Karumichan on Apr 9, 2006 23:36:43 GMT -5
Thats alot of info to know. I don't know what to discuss, but I feel very informed. ^^
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Post by Shinta_Himura on Apr 19, 2006 21:57:28 GMT -5
The democratic, provisional government had interests to keep Russia in World War I and United States joined the war when Tsarist's government was changed by provisional. In other words they joined the war before Russia pulled out, but then there was Bolsheviks revolution some monthes after the establishment of Provisional government and Russia pulled out of the war.
They also say that United States joined the war because it was now only democratic nations against Absolute monarchies at that time. Before then, Russia was also an Absolute Monarchy, so it couln't have been called democracy vs. monarchy war then.
Does everyone understand this?
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Post by Karumichan on Apr 20, 2006 22:46:36 GMT -5
Yeah, I think. It's the names that make me forget. I have to go back and see who's who. XD
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Post by chibipyroduo on Apr 21, 2006 0:31:31 GMT -5
I believe it makes sense. Correct me if I'm wrong (because I'll probably screw it up somehow) Okay the US entered the war because it was all democratic countries vs monarchys. But Russia at the time was run by a monarchy. Question was that the time when the story of Anatasia is supposed to take place (sorry I can't spell her countries name I'm a little challenge when it comes to spelling.)
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Post by Shinta_Himura on Apr 21, 2006 6:55:35 GMT -5
When US entered the war, the last monarch of Russia, Nicholas II abdigated and government was taken over by a group of democratic ministers who called themselves provisional government. That happened a bit before US entered the war and the head of provisional government Kerensky, had an agreement with US that he would keep Russia in the war as long as US will send help to Russia.
The story of Anastasia is somewhat historicaly correct, but history was twisted a little bit there. For example Rasputin was assassinated in 1905 if I'm not mistaken and Russian Imperial family got arrested in 1917, so Rasputin couldn't be around at the time when Nicholas and his family was transported on the train to Siberia. However, the story of Anastasia does suppose to take place around that time.
I think the next lecture should be on the abdigation of Nicholas II and on the events that took place right after that, until the events of the summer of 1918 that took place in the basement of one gloomy house in Ekaterinburg that locates in Ural mountains. If you eager to find out what had happened there, come to the next class and we'll talk about that. *packs and walks out*
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